Mind Manipulation and Maintaining Sanity in a Rapidly Changing World - PART 1 | Dr. Ursula Lentine

URSULA L: 0:00

we're being manipulated regularly, but it's so normal for us that we don't really realize it. They're addicted to that, and they're not using their own internal resources as a reference, because no one's teaching them about that fear and anger feed those darknesses We create them and then they kind of linger around Energetically, they're looking for food because they they don't have any light.

JON A: 0:31

All right. Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast. I'm your host, Jon Astacio. And today we welcome back Dr. Ursula Lentini. Now, if you're new to Ursula, she's got a doctorate in consciousness studies. She's a licensed minister and internal family systems specialist. Subconscious specialists, as you can see, she deals with the mind a lot. And that's why I brought her back on recently. I had some conversations with people that I know that have. I've been dealing with a lot of mental challenges, let's just say, whether it be voices, whether it be confusion and uncertainty. So why not do a two part episode where the first part we talk about bringing awareness of the situation, whether it be mind control, manipulation, demonic entities and self awareness. And then the second part would be as we move into this world, that's just rapidly changing and a lot of uncertainty. How do we navigate that? And also maintain sanity and self awareness so that we can be strong enough to just move forward and be prosperous with a clear mind and not living in that fear mentality and just being stressed all the time. So If you want to support the show, feel free to go to Apple podcast and leave a five star review that helps us grow the show and get more amazing guests now with that said, let's get to the show. I had an interesting conversation and I was like, I got to talk to Ursula about it because she knows about the brain and then voices and that whole world. And I've done my research, but it would be interesting some conversation with somebody that actively works with clients in that space of the consciousness and battling, whether it be demons or yourself. So first I want to say, thanks for coming on the show, Ursula. Welcome to the show yet again, always a pleasure to have

URSULA L: 2:24

It is such a pleasure. I have so much fun with you. We just like rip it up and go out there. And you know, this podcast for me is the no boundaries podcast. Like I just, you ask these questions and I'm like, if he, anybody has the guts to ask question, I'm going to have the guts to answer that question.

JON A: 2:44

Let's do it. So for a little bit of a background, I had a conversation with a friend of mine and the conversation went the way of the idea and concept of there's technology out there that has the capacity to do what a cell phone does to another cell phone or what a satellite does to your TV or radio, but to your mind and It could be coded as voice of God technology, right? That there's certain people that have this technology. It exists. You can look it up. There's patents and whatnot, where you can feed someone's mind with images. Um, sound and if you don't know this stuff exists, you're going to think you're going crazy. And on top of that, you're going to lose a lot of credibility. So that could be easily weaponized. For whatever purpose, whether it be a religious purpose, whether it be, you just want someone to lose credibility. I mean, uh, I want to reference movies. We're going to dive into this, but then there's also levels of consciousness that makes you more susceptible to that. to be most beneficial for the audience. I figured we go into the, what, how deep does it go and what can we do to prevent that from happening? Whether it be preventative measures or understanding it so that you can take. Just measures of, of action to to be in a better place.

URSULA L: 4:14

Yeah, well, let's begin with something that's known, right? Because this is so out there that even your regular listeners are going to be like, I don't know, John, this might be, this might be one that's taken too far. So let's start with what we already know to work. Uh, here's the latest issue of, um, Vogue magazine. Uh, so, and here's an ad for Fendi. And here's a very unhappy young lady with a grandma bag. Okay? So this ad, uh, 180, 000 to place a one page ad in Vogue. These

JON A: 4:56

Purses

URSULA L: 4:57

purses cost anywhere from 2, 000 to 5, 000. So, you're not going to get this at Walmart, you are, this is a very niche market, right? So they're spending 180, 000 on a very elite group to sell those bags.

JON A: 5:15

elite group to sell those

URSULA L: 5:18

they're not send, spending that much money hoping,

JON A: 5:22

They know that

URSULA L: 5:24

they know that this works.

JON A: 5:26

Even though they

URSULA L: 5:27

though they can tell how, you know, whatever the 200, 000 people maybe max buy that bag, that's their customer. They'll still spend 180, 000 on it to, because they know it works. Advertising works, otherwise people wouldn't invest in it like they do. We are bombarded with images of advertising all day long, so much so we don't realize it.

JON A: 5:52

realize it. We just

URSULA L: 5:53

just kind of ignore it,

JON A: 5:55

but it

URSULA L: 5:56

it must be working.

JON A: 5:57

would not,

URSULA L: 5:58

They would not, I promise they would not spend that much money on that stuff. So if an, and then me as a consumer, not that I'm buying those things, but I'm just looking at that. I might look at her hair. I might look at her shoe. I might look at that and that's it. But somehow, Fendi, buy a Fendi bag, you'll be a cool person, got into my brain just by looking at that image. So if that's visual, then auditory, what are we hearing? When a preacher is like, da, da, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, there's a cadence that dismisses our filter and we just take it in and we listen. Hitler did that thing. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and everyone's like, oh, okay, okay. It's like hypnotic.

JON A: 6:43

so the tonality and how often that tone is repeated if you say it a certain way, it bypasses certain filters. That's interesting.

URSULA L: 6:51

Right. So if you're if you're hushing a baby Right? And Shhhh....shhh....shhh the baby will eventually, so this is brain manipulation, music. When we hear music, the part of our brain is like, Oh, there's music playing. Right? But if there's heavy or like heavy metal, like Kill your mother Right? It's going in the brain so that we don't have a filter when we're listening to music.'cause that part of our brain doesn't need a filter because it's the song that we like and we move our body. Right? TikTok, they have, you know, they have this, um, movement, this certain movement to, to like that. You'll see, you'll see as you're scrolling through, they go, Uhuh, Uhuh, Uhuh like that. And I'm like. Why is everybody moving in that motion?

JON A: 7:45

a tick tock, like a

URSULA L: 7:46

it, it catches your

JON A: 7:47

a hypnotic clock. Tick tock, tick, wow.

URSULA L: 7:52

I was like, what is that? Because I ask these questions, right? And I get answers. And then one was a TikTok of a baby. And I'm like, oh, frig. If a baby, or if anybody goes like this, they're about to fall. So our reptilian brain is like, oh, and then we, now we, now they got us to, oh, and then, oh, look at the face you made, right? You're like, damn it!

JON A: 8:18

you're saying a certain movement is imitating when you're about to fall so that can put you in a state of heightened awareness or tension or stress

URSULA L: 8:28

let me pay. Oh, what's happening here? Do I have to catch somebody? Oh no, it's just a silly thing. Ha ha ha.

JON A: 8:35

Yeah, the dances. Yeah.

URSULA L: 8:36

Okay, so they're just putting our brain, the music, the colors, all of that stuff. So we're being manipulated regularly, but it's so normal for us that we don't really realize it. And then you have to look at our culture, right? So we're here in America, it's highly privileged, we feel like we have some freedoms. If I was born in China, in a communist country, and I didn't know anything about freedom, I didn't know I could write music and sing and dance and put a thing, I'm just working on the farm and hoping I can get it the next meal, right? So the realities, our environment shape our realities.

JON A: 9:13

We were taught

URSULA L: 9:14

So, when I was a kid, we didn't have cell phones. We went outside and played, we used our imagination, we were taught to think for ourselves, we were taught to, you know, figure out problems, how to use discernment, all of this stuff. The children of today, they're not being taught those things. They're being raised by an advertisement thing that, uh, manipulate, a brain manipulating thing. Brains don't develop until they're age 21, 25, like that. So, you know, that thing is conditioning people's brains. They're addicted to that, and they're not using their own internal resources as a reference, because no one's teaching them about that. Caveman days, that's all they had.

JON A: 10:02

Uh huh.

URSULA L: 10:11

and depend on one another, right? We're so far away from the way our brain was actually designed as a mammal, as a human being. And then spiritually speaking, I think the cavemans were more in tuned than we are. So people on their spiritual path, like we're like,

JON A: 10:31

have. Some

URSULA L: 10:33

Let me have three seconds of peace and quiet please.

JON A: 10:36

but we're like, Can you put me down for three minutes? I need to be quiet, please! My thought is that what can you say about let's let's let's dive into the craziness. What can you say about? the technology Let me ask you do you want to go into the technology route of what? That's going beyond the screen and directly into the mind and then go into the demonic side and then move into how we can prevent that because I think, I think that would be an easy way for people to digest what's going on. Um, does that work for you?

URSULA L: 11:27

yes.

JON A: 11:29

Okay, go ahead. Let's go. So yeah, so what's the technology? I'm aware of it as voice of God technology where you use frequency just like a cell phone connects to another cell phone and the frequency pairs. If we can believe that we can pick up a phone and you can hear an audio, then there's it's easier to digest the concept of someone shooting sounds into the brain directly. And then that brain thinking that that it's So that is a great manipulation, right, because

URSULA L: 12:00

Right. So there are apps where you can listen to frequencies, you know, the YouTube 3, 3 45 or something, you know, 2 86 and frequencies think I've got. So that is a great manipulation, right? Because even in back in the black and white movie days. So if you look at a video, it's a bunch of screens. It's a bunch of pictures. In there, they would put, eat more popcorn, and then people would eat more popcorn. So they can do that to us visually and auditorily. If you buy a hypnosis video, They'll say, just listen to the music, and you won't be able to hear the words behind here, but go ahead and put this on, and make sure you're two things, so your whole brain's getting affected. And they will say, you know, all the hyp you're not smoking anymore, you don't feel like smoking, na na na na na na. Right? So that's hypnosis. So that's a known thing that's like, Oh yeah, I could get that. So in those YouTube videos with the frequency, you're just listening to the music again, right? That part of your brain, but in there they can say subtle things that we can't even hear.

JON A: 13:14

and

URSULA L: 13:14

I was in a book writing course. And he said, okay, put these things in and it's a timed music and it's binary beats. But in the background, he was like, mention my name in your book. Take my next course. La la la. And then some of us were like, at lunch, we're like, do you feel like putting his name in your book? Like,

JON A: 13:34

God, I'm making a book. You knew that, um, that was going on or you picked it up on, on that later.

URSULA L: 13:46

picked it up in the class. Because I have heightened awareness, right? I'm a multidimensional being, and I don't, by nature, I am discerning, right? Because I know, I know all the nonsense going on, because I also know the spiritual part. Of angels and spiritual helpers and our guides. And you, so you have to be very subtle. You have to have a subtle awareness. That's what I'm saying. You pray for three seconds of silence. So after a while you get lots of silence. And in that silence, you have heightened awareness and you can pick up the subtle energies coming in.

JON A: 14:25

it. For people who are

URSULA L: 14:27

So people who are channelers, they, they get quiet, they get their ego, they get all the noise of the chaos of the world to settle down so they can be in another frequency so they can hear their guide spiritual helpers and then out comes the channeling.

JON A: 14:42

comes the

URSULA L: 14:42

So now Back to, you know, the dark side here.

JON A: 14:46

So, hypnosis works

URSULA L: 14:47

So hypnosis works that way. So people will go in, well, or you go to the, you know, and they're doing the chicken dance, right?

JON A: 14:55

I said, I'm

URSULA L: 14:56

And then they come and sit down and their wife's like, Oh my God, you're hilarious. And he's like, what? Yeah, you were on stage. You were doing a chicken dance. No, I wasn't.

JON A: 15:04

Hypnosis were highly

URSULA L: 15:05

So, right, it works. We're highly suggestible because our environment creates that way. So now here say we're a youth. Okay, let's go to drugs and alcohol, not even a youth, just anybody. So in, you know, there's that scale

JON A: 15:20

there's that

URSULA L: 15:21

that they have where you're at a certain frequency, a certain consciousness.

JON A: 15:26

consciousness. Um, and if you're on

URSULA L: 15:29

and if you're on drugs and alcohol, we lower our vibration

JON A: 15:33

vibration,

URSULA L: 15:34

in the low vibrant suicidal, right? The world's so those are the thoughts. Darkness itself, entities, whatever you want to call them, can get in

JON A: 15:48

through that

URSULA L: 15:49

host off of that being because they have light inside of them.

JON A: 15:54

right?

URSULA L: 15:55

So you can have a bad day, right, and then you can rise up the scale and now you're having a good day. But if you're kind of down here and having lots of bad days, you're, you're

JON A: 16:04

bad days You're, you're Yeah.

URSULA L: 16:06

the entities can come in just like the angels There's other little dark things and their negative thought forms and the more we feed them. Yeah Yeah, life is hard. Yeah. I'm a horrible person. Yeah, I should be dead, right? So then you're repeating the thought form back to

JON A: 16:26

now it

URSULA L: 16:27

know, you're repeating it back and it grows And now it turns into something bigger than you and it's not that it's like the devil or a demon, right? Because it's what do you believe and what do you buy into because whatever we're focusing on we feed that so John fear and anger feed those darknesses We create them and then they kind of linger around and then they kind of look, you know Energetically, they're looking for food because they they don't have any light. They don't they're not sovereign beings They were at some point but their thing is so low that they've got fooled by darkness itself and they're goons now And they're looking right. So when I go in and do healing I'm like, ah, ha ha ha!

JON A: 17:25

ha! ha!

URSULA L: 17:26

You're the one that got tricked Get off of my client.

JON A: 17:30

have a little

URSULA L: 17:31

You know, they got a little vibration, so you hopped on them. But now I'm talking straight to you. You got tricked by darkness beyond you. You have, you had, maybe still in there, a little spark of light your own self. So stop being tricked by the darkness itself and find your own light and leave this person alone.

JON A: 17:54

have to ask, has any of these beings spoke back to you

URSULA L: 18:00

Then go like this. Um, I'm

JON A: 18:04

you see more. Um, image like.

URSULA L: 18:29

they're goons. They're zombies. They're not Like clever. They're like a one trick pony And you're like, Ooh, you know, the boogeyman. So it's very, very simple. So once we understand that we're a sovereign being or child of God, we're made of the universal, you know, construct, every cell in our body looks like the galaxy, you know, like, Oh. We're a part of the greater divine here. So these low frequency, low life energies, right, the drug dealers of the world. I just, somebody who I know lost their partner because he bought some coke off the street and it had fentanyl and now he's dead.

JON A: 19:12

had Fetwell, and

URSULA L: 19:13

And then another friend said, Oh, fentanyl, you just need the tip of a pen amount and it could kill you.

JON A: 19:20

a mouth, and it'll

URSULA L: 19:21

And I'm like, he just got killed by a drug dealer.

JON A: 19:24

got killed by a drug dealer. You know what

URSULA L: 19:28

You know what I mean? So we're, we're living in some tricky times here.

JON A: 19:32

us?

URSULA L: 19:33

So we have to keep our frequency really high because your next question, you know, that when you ask me about those things, is how do we keep away from that? So whether it's a low vibration, you know, the world's, the world's a dark place. Don't listen to the news. It's paid programming by the drug industry. Look at the commercials. Right, so, so we already know, your viewers probably already know, like, don't look at the news. Boy, talk about brainwashing, right?

JON A: 20:03

I wanted to say something. How do you know? The difference. Let's, let's say someone's not as clairvoyant or cla audience as you or cla sentient as you. How does someone know when they are being hijacked? Whether, well, two things. One, how they know that it's not like that it's, uh, one of these goons and not AI or a, a human behind a machine. And then two, how do you know that it's happening to you? And it's not just you battling yourself. You

URSULA L: 20:33

Good question, good question. So let's just say other, right? Whether it's AI, whether it's an elemental, um, whether it's, uh, You know, somebody who, even in Pranic Healing, we talk about cords.

JON A: 20:50

the people

URSULA L: 20:51

So if you and I were in a fight, and I'm like, oh, that John! I just sent you an energetic cord, in like, in an attacking way. I have that end of the cord, and you have that end of the cord. I am lowering my vibration by thinking poorly towards you. But the more I think about you, the more I get mad at you. And now that cord gets bigger and bigger. Same. If I'm afraid of the government or the money collapsing or the people with the guns or the, I'm feeding that energy stream. I'm voluntarily feeding my own negativity. that's where the work is.

JON A: 21:37

Okay.

URSULA L: 21:39

So if I'm watching the scary things and are freaking me out. That's my choice. I made that choice to turn that thing on and look at it and then buy into it and get all my Hormones and all my chemicals and all my fear and all my you know, go away. Oh, it's very exciting

JON A: 22:00

You're basically saying that you don't really have to know where it's coming from. At the end of the day, if you know that you're feeding it, then just work on stop feeding it. So let's go towards what we can do as individuals to elevate ourselves. Out of that situation or not, not fight back because you're technically fighting with that same level, right? Fighting fire with fire. So what would be some solutions that people can take right now to prevent that from happening and get themselves out of that? Especially with what's coming up.

URSULA L: 22:34

So the person who are you were saying they're having those AI attack Say it's just another person that they know and they're thinking ill of them, right? Because we have you go through a breakup Right? And then you're like, Oh, I know they're thinking about me, and oh, it gives me the creep, and I'm scared, and I have to get a restraining order, and whoa, right? All of that stuff. Same. So that's a very, um, uh, palatable, close, like, realistic thing, and then you can say, Oh, there's a neighbor, and oh, there's an, you know, elemental, and oh, there's AI, and oh, there's a demon, and oh, right? There are, there are other. Okay, other. So then you can say, okay. I'm not going to buy into that fear and anger, the two things that feed it. So what can I do to calm myself down? How can I stop obsessing, right? Because it gets on a wheel and then it goes, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And you can't stop. You can't stop worrying. You can't stop mad. You can't stop blame. You can't stop. So then it's to say, Oh. Awareness, right? Awareness is the biggest part of spiritual path. Oh, look, I'm doing that to me. A part of me is buying into that, right? Because first it's I am doing it, and then you realize, Oh, a part of me got hooked. So there's just a part of you that got hooked, but it's very big now because it's consuming you. So you can say, I am not the part of me that got hooked. So you say there's one part of me, so say someone's dealing with addiction, it's similar, right? Because when you see all these systems, how they work, they're very similar. So say someone has like a smoking thing. are not They have a smoker. They are not a smoker. They have a smoker part of them they're working, they're sleeping. because when they're not smoking, they're eating, they're talking, they're working, they're sleeping. So just that smoker is there in their life when they're smoking and when they're thinking about their next.

JON A: 24:35

say, I am

URSULA L: 24:38

say, I am not the thing that's a part of me. It's only one part of me. Now you want to boost up all these other parts of you that are not afraid.

JON A: 24:50

So interesting enough, it's almost like step one, biggest part is self awareness. And now the next step sounds like. Like you said, identifying the different parts of you that you dislike that can be feeding that. Is there a way to help identify those things that are helping feed that? Because the average person isn't that aware, out of nowhere is I'm going to be self aware. What would that look like for somebody? I

URSULA L: 25:19

Good. Great question. So now you have to look at your behavior. think, so this Ughh look, as soon as I wake up, I grab my phone and I get, and I scare myself. I watched those things that scare me. 20 minutes, go for a Maybe I shouldn't do that. the birds, the trees, Maybe if I didn't do that and I watched happy things or I Danced, right? So physical,

JON A: 25:46

order.

URSULA L: 25:47

right? So this is all deep, deep, deep stuff we're talking about. But if I can do something physical, I move my brain out of that state. My thing that I tell all my people, go outside. Minimum 20 minutes, go for a walk and specifically listen for the birds. Touch the trees. Look at the leaves. If you can, five minutes of barefoot on the soil, on the grass. That will change your physiological system and start recalibrating to your natural order.

JON A: 26:28

I already sensed two things that are going to be pushbacks already. First one, there are people close to me, not going to say who, really, really, really like scary movies. It calms them down, ironically, or the, the reasoning is this way that I know what to do if that happens. That's one. Two, I definitely want to highlight. And you already highlighted it, but I feel the need to go deeper into it. The need to listen to the birds. I have some thoughts around that, but I'm curious to see there's more depth to what you were saying. So if you can address those, it's going to be interesting.

URSULA L: 27:13

Okay, so the horror movies are, um, a fear response, right? So they can say, oh, well, I'm facing my fears. not running and hiding from them. I'm facing my fears. You're like, okay, they are also getting a chemical hit by being scared. I used to have a friend, I don't, I still have him, but he used to watch vampire movies before going to bed and wondered why he was having sleeping problems.

JON A: 27:46

that dopamine hit.

URSULA L: 27:49

So it's like we're, as human beings, we have fear. We're just afraid to be alive. I don't know, like, when I get to heaven, I'm gonna ask, like, what, what were you thinking when you put that in the design, right? Like, that's not cool. How do you expect us to do the evolutionary process when you input fear? Like, so, whatever. We're here to conquer fear. That's fine. Um, fear also has kept us alive through the centuries, right? Because if we weren't afraid, we would be eating for lunch on a regular basis. So, it has served its purpose, but sometimes we get addicted to fear. We get addicted to anger. We get addicted to fighting. We get addicted to like, Oh, who's after me? Oh, you know, it's like calm down.

JON A: 28:35

get addicted to

URSULA L: 28:37

But that's a chemical rush to be in a horror movie.

JON A: 28:40

addicted to amnesia,

URSULA L: 28:41

I can't go to horror movies because I'm the killer and the victim and it's a workout for me. I'm like, this is exhausting. Running fear, right? So like if you don't, if you're like, I'm not afraid all day long, right? I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. Then you watch the movie. You're like,

JON A: 29:07

know, the

URSULA L: 29:08

I'm in touch with my fearful part. Okay, that's good. Right? So what that is, it's a loop. That, that propensity for horror movies is a loop to feel the fear addiction chemical.

JON A: 29:22

sound of

URSULA L: 29:22

And then they justify it, right? Just like the addict. They justify it, like, oh, it calms me down, it's the only thing that relaxes me. You're like, oh, okay. And then the sound of the birds, right, because we talked about sound and music and things like that. When we listen to the sound of the birds, we're not ruminating, we're not rotating, we're not spinning one of our loops.

JON A: 29:48

So it causes us

URSULA L: 29:50

And the bird has a high pitched tone,

JON A: 29:53

Because there's,

URSULA L: 29:54

so it causes us to pay attention, it causes the other birds to pay attention. Because there's, in nature, when you go into nature, there's still sounds. There's the squirrel, there's the wind, there's the breeze, there's two trees rubbing against each other. There's all kinds of sounds out there. But the bird will sing a sound and it'll kind of break all other sounds and it's a higher vibrational pitch. So we're like, Oh, just like that tick tock thing. We're like, Oh, so it causes us to pay attention like, Oh,

JON A: 30:27

interesting because that high pitch sounds like it makes you present, like you said, and then at the same time it's It has to be. I mean, birds have been around for so long. It has to be hitting some deep primal part of you that wakes up and reconnects you to, to earth and nature and kind of like almost like a reset, like a frequency reset and internal reset. It's gotta.

URSULA L: 30:58

you listen to the ancient choirs and the churches. Very high pitch. I've heard angels singing before in moments of, you know, just like bliss. Very high pitch.

JON A: 31:15

That's insane. That's insane. All right, so. I feel like this is a good place to finish up this part of this two part series, because the second part, I definitely want to get into what we're expecting, like we're going literally it's New Year's Eve 2023. And there's a lot of speculation on next year. There's a lot of fear mongering. There's a lot of expectations. And I feel like this episode would be good, a ramp up for helping us. Prepare for that knowing the groundwork that we pretty much set out the basics of the awareness, right? So in the next part, we're going to dive into More of like what to expect and some tips on how to avoid some of that trauma with added keys to that awareness piece and more Navigation tools so stay tuned for the next episode. It's going to be coming right around the corner.