#77 Healing with Light! | Alisa St. Georges

Alisa St. Georges:
0:00

This technology harnesses that light so this is a really important part of the journey is recognizing that we are not physical bodies, We are beings of light how appropriate is it that light Can heal us and that the light that we find in the stars and the sun is actually within us. And so it's kind of like, you know, God within us, the creator of the Holy spirit. And that's how I feel about it. And it's very empowering. So we don't need a plug. We are the power source.

Jon A:
0:33

All right. Welcome to the new way to in podcast. I'm your host, Jon Astacio. And today we're speaking with Alisa St. Georges, who is actively introducing open minded individuals to health benefits of lightwave phototherapy technology. We go into her health challenges a bit on the technology and how it works and a 5, 000 trip to the zoo. So that's. Very expensive zoo trip. So if you're curious about how she uses light. To help improve health. You're not going to want to miss out on this episode. Now, I'm really looking to grow the show and I want to make sure that we're creating the right content that you're interested in and that you'll benefit. what you could do is go to newagehuman. com and hit that contact button. It reaches out straight to me via email. What we're looking for is some feedback from you on what's working, what's not working, and even some suggestions on any guests that you feel would be great for the show now, with that said, thank you for joining us today and let's get to the show. Alisa St. Georges. Thanks for coming on the show. How's it going?

Alisa St. Georges:
1:39

Fantastic, Alisa thanks for having me. Sure.

Jon A:
1:42

I'm, I'm excited to have you on. I feel like I say this every single time. I'm just going to keep saying it because it's authentic. I'm excited. We're going to talk about your holistic journey and some new tech, and I'm always into new tech. So let's, let's just go straight into it. I want to know what were you doing before you started your holistic journey?

Alisa St. Georges:
2:04

I was taking meds like many people, right? I'm a cancer survivor. I don't typically use that to identify or define myself, but that's where I was. Still living in fear, right? Cancer is a big deal. And, you know, even when you're cured or in remission, people go through a lot of anxiety for many, many years about recurrence. And so I was in that place fearful, taking long term medication to prevent a recurrence seeing other parts of my health decline. And Never really thought about too much about any other options or any other path. So that's where I was before everything happened.

Jon A:
2:52

So what happened? And I want to say that, like, thanks for sharing and being authentic with just The fact that it can be a very scary and for those that haven't had that experiences, it's allowing them to get into the mind of someone that's a survivor. And it does sound like it's important for you to say you're a survivor because it, am I right? When, when, when you say that it helps you put it in the past and be able to move forward.

Alisa St. Georges:
3:26

absolutely. It took me a long time to use that word.

Jon A:
3:29

Wow. Cause I, I keep, I mean, they're like, I'm a survivor. I'm a survivor, you know? And I'm, I'm thinking about like that Beyonce song.

Alisa St. Georges:
3:35

That's right.

Jon A:
3:37

but yeah, like it's, it's, there's power in words. So, um, it sounds, it sounds like something happened that put you on a really good trajectory. So go ahead. I'm curious what happened.

Alisa St. Georges:
3:49

Yeah. So, uh, we all experienced this COVID crisis, right. For lack of a better way to describe it. And I was still in that fear mode. And so it was a beautiful transition for me because it was a familiar place for me. I was comfortable with it. I'm in fear of other things. Now I'm in fear of something else. We just add something else to the plate, right? Um, and so for those first months, I was a lunatic just like all the rest. I was washing groceries in my sink. My poor husband. I was washing groceries like, oh, you have to wash those. Take off your shoes. And he's just lovingly accepted where I was at that time. Gently tried to talk to me about my anxiety and the level of concern that maybe it was superseding you know, the average level he worked in the auto body business. And so guys have a very different view of. This kind of thing. And I, you know, I really, it challenged me, right? Cause he's like, I'm going to work and no one's asking me to put a mask on and I'm getting my job done and nothing's changed for me. And so that started to sink in. We got sent home from work and that's when things started to change. I never had experienced a work life balance. So I went into the workforce full time when my kids were young. I had four kids and I was a single mom at the time, and I was right on the cusp of getting over all my treatment. So that job was intensely secure for me and it provided health insurance, provided income that I didn't have. And. So I felt not obligated, but I felt really, um, like I owed those people that hired me a lot. And so I gave everything, which meant if my kids called, I didn't take the call.

Jon A:
5:55

Wow.

Alisa St. Georges:
5:56

I was raised in an era where work ethic was really strict and there was really no connection between work and home. There was no balance. And so for me, it was like, okay, I got this job. I need this job. I'm going to put everything I have into this job and it's going to provide me what I'm looking for. And so when I went home from COVID many years later, I'm working from home. My kids are grown. I found this world that just opened up to me. And that was the first striking difference in the way I had been living.

Jon A:
6:36

Now you say this world that opened up for you, are you saying the, the time freedom of, of being at home and met just, it's a different world, right? Are you talking about that?

Alisa St. Georges:
6:48

Yes. So I'm pretty self disciplined and for me, it was, it was beautiful marriage because I could get my job done very easily while I was doing other things. And I also was comfortable with having the computer on 10 hours a day, but getting eight hours of work in. And I became more spontaneous. Oh my gosh, the sun's out. It's beautiful. I'm going out to sit in the sun or walk the dogs for a little bit. And I could do that. So for me, this was a brand new world and I was, didn't know then, but never looking back to the old way of doing things.

Jon A:
7:26

Yeah. And it's interesting for you because you were talking about. Just not too much before how you were dealing with anxiety after, you know, the, the lockdowns, but you're used to being home. So I can see it not I could see something. It's more of a health thing that was driving the anxiety and, the, the point I wanted to get across as. Tried to hone in what I want to say is that I'm surprised that you actually adapted or adopted adapted to Working at home a lot easier than a lot of people that I know of because very few people are self disciplined and you're like I'm self disciplined now Was it a hard transition? I know we're kind of going off on a tangent, but I'm just very

Alisa St. Georges:
8:17

No, not at all. Like I said, it was, it was easy. They allowed us to take laptops home, which we had never done before. Been given permission for in the past, they, they meaning state of Connecticut, our employer, um, all of a sudden trusted us. Whereas previously there was a, it felt like a level of distrust. We were never treated the way others on campus. I worked at in higher education. We were, the staff were never treated as the faculty. So all of a sudden we got these privileges that they've always had and wow, did that feel great? You can take a laptop home. You can work from home. You know, you could control your own schedule Put in your hours on your own. So yeah, so that was opened up a whole new world and then of course Because that anxiety prompted Was prompted by fear I started researching. I was just digging every free minute I had. I was digging. I was digging. I had podcasts on in the background while I was doing work. And the amount of information available was just crazy. It was crazy. I could, I could have done that full time, you know, 12 hours a day. But the things that were coming through and that were resonating with We're chipping away at those old beliefs and. It didn't take very long before like that whole belief system started to crumble.

Jon A:
9:49

Is there one thing specifically, so you're doing, so you're at home, you're working from home and you're able to be spontaneous. And then at the same time you have this new found ability to do a lot of research. And it's fueled by anxiety and maybe some distrust and some curiosity. So my curiosity is what what made you want to do research? Was it versus believing everything you hear on the news or, you know, why everybody's telling you, cause you could have just been like, all right, you know, I'm just going to listen for the next step. What made you say, Hmm, I'm going to research this.

Alisa St. Georges:
10:32

It was a series of divine interventions, honestly. You know, the anxiety fueled the need to control what can I control? What, what can't I control? I was also Trying to make sense of why are some people way over here on the spectrum of their reaction and some people are way over here Where do I fit in? in there and So I have never been someone to just listen. My husband says I'm the devil's best advocate He doesn't need any more advocacy. He says And I say well I'm not advocating for the devil. I'm opening my mind. And so what I thought was open mindedness in my past was to an extent, but it was really the, the, I didn't know that it could be opened so, so wide. I always saw different perspectives of things. And so I would say, well, what about this? And then he would say, you know, the devil doesn't need any more advocacy. But when I realized how far those floodgates really do open. It just, it started something that I wasn't expecting. And so those little divine interventions came in. I never fit into the Facebook mold into the typical social acceptance kind of framework. I was always the kid that stood out. I was always different and it felt really uncomfortable for me. Had a, quite a challenging childhood. So that was norm, the norm for me. So feeling like the outsider here, when all of a sudden my views didn't necessarily coincide with the narrative was comfortable for me. It was painful. I was surprised at how painful it was. I was okay with being different and thinking differently and making different decisions and being identified and stigmatized as a bad person who didn't care about others. That was the painful part. And when family and friends, you know, had some of those same opinions and I kind of fell into that pool of people that weren't following the narrative, it hurt. It hurt a lot.

Jon A:
12:57

And, and you're in it's interesting, certain phrases that you're, you're saying, I, I feel like the people that are in the same situation as you are very familiar with those phrases as far as the narrative Right? The public facing answers. There's usually the public and then the real and right? Controlling the masses and the excuse of, well, they're not ready for the, the actual situation. And there's, Such a great area there, but you, you said divine intervention, divine, is there one specific one that you can remember that you can share that was like, you know, that that made you say this has to be a divine intervention, whether it's just, it couldn't be coincidence.

Alisa St. Georges:
13:42

Sure. Sure. I would say mostly it was the experiences I was having. I found myself in the midst of like minded people in a world where everyone around me. Was following the narrative. I found myself in these little pockets of people. We were finding each other and it was strange, right? So you almost started to sense when you met someone, whether it be online or in person, which way they kind of swayed, what were their feelings, how were they reacting and dealing with this? And so little by little that tribe started to grow and. I felt, wow, I'm not, I'm not completely alone. Right. But you know, one of the experiences that I had was with LifeWave in particular, I'm not a, at that time I was not a Facebook person. I happened to be on because I was communicating with someone through messenger and saw on my feed, click on this zoom, we're having a zoom in five minutes, you know, join us. I had no idea what it was about. I'm a busy person. I'm always active. I'm always got three or four things happening at once. Something made me click on that zoom. I ended up in, you know, a community of people who were just sharing amazing things and I was searching at that time for a new path and So that was just one of the examples, but, um, it was finding that very small demographic of people in a sea full of normies, if you will, that just couldn't have been coincidence. I mean, it's like finding a needle in a haystack and I had, it happened over and over and over. And you were part of that community, John? Sure.

Jon A:
15:28

Yeah, it's interesting when you're as society and our local communities starts to get divided and you have perspectives and belief structures that navigate you towards decisions that can be completely different. It's a challenge, right? To find your people, your, your community. And then there's. Communities within communities within communities. So it's where do you sit and all that? So I, I can see how. Yeah, it's kind of interesting where, and I know what you're talking about, you're doing your thing and then you just by chance start talking with somebody and then you're like, Oh, this is my people. Right. And you're like, this is not a coincidence. This is not a coincidence. Let me just, and then you just keep going and then it grows. So it's very interesting. So question. Let's talk about this technology that you're working with. And how you found out about it and what's going on with this. It's, I, I, I don't want to give it up and you, I think you started to get into it. So what's going on with this technology that you're working with? Yeah, I

Alisa St. Georges:
16:48

I only knew one person on the zoom and I didn't know that person very closely. She's a popular influencer person, very controversial. And I just happened to click on the zoom to see what was up. And she was having a conversation with many other people about this technology that she happens to be using with. Some of the trafficked children that she rescues pretty, uh, powerful, pretty powerful. And I thought, wow, I'm looking and searching for some way to contribute to this new world. I'm done with that old paradigm. Done with the pharmaceuticals, I basically just stopped all the medications I was taking to the dismay of my youngest daughter, who was kind of freaked out at the time. And thought, well, it was meant to be here at this time. And I feel like many of the moments over the past four years have validated that. Right. You were born for a time such as this kind of thing. so I just dug in and just decided right then and there it was, it was an easy path to take those times of ease I'm finding are when I feel most reassured that it's the correct path. It falls into my lap. It happens before I know what happened. It's almost like a surreal event. And then I look back and say, how did, how did I just do that? What, what just happened? Kind of thing, almost like it was out of my own control. So, and what the technology is, is a very simple, but very. Effective form of photo therapy. So people are very familiar with photo therapy. Babies get plugged in under the light when they're jaundiced. Adults use far infrared light in saunas. We have the red light therapy that people will undergo sometimes at a, you know, a spa or. That kind of thing. So people are really familiar with phototherapy. And of course the best example yet the Sun, right? so I'm a strong believer in a creator who created a universe that was intended specifically to support us, human, human life. And I think the Sun has been demonized. That's a whole different rabbit hole, a different story, but,

Jon A:
19:26

it. You're like, Oh

Alisa St. Georges:
19:29

can agree when you're in the sun, you feel better, right? You just, you feel great. And they always tell us, Oh, that suntan means you're damaging yourself. You're, you know, you're killing yourself. Um, but wow, does it feel good? So people are familiar with vitamin D and how your body dissipates it. is able to up its production when you're in the sunlight. And there's so many other crazy benefits that we're not even aware of. So this patch harnesses the light within us. And so this is a really important part of the journey is recognizing that we are not physical bodies, right? We are beings of light and how appropriate is it that light Can heal us and that the light that we find in the stars and the sun is actually within us. And so it's kind of like, you know, God within us, the creator of the Holy spirit. And that's how I feel about it. And it's very empowering. So we don't need a plug. We are the power source. The human body was designed to heal itself, to be strong and powerful. And this technology harnesses that light. So when we're outside in the evening, you can see, uh, infrared with infrared goggles, right? You can see the night vision goggles, our heat, our heat, our body light coming off of us. Animals, all kinds of things. And so that heat and light hits this little patch, the little white spot here in the patch, which is embedded with all natural amino acids, sugars, salts, and communications actually that reflect light waves back into the cells. Mind you, the only thing going into your body is light waves and those light waves communicate to your cells. Uh, ways to enhance biological reactions that are already happening, but just happen to kind of slow down as we age.

Jon A:
21:36

So you're, you, so, so you basically broke down a light wave patch that is reflecting the light that is coming off the body to be able to heal the body. it's like, yeah, it's redirecting your own lights so that it's almost like as your light escapes, it's like, no, no, no. Let's turn around and like, you know, let's work with, with, with you, so to speak. That's pretty. And, um, there's different types of. Locations from what I remember that you mentioned in the past for these patches, and I saw that for anybody that's listening only she has a patch right where I guess, what do you call the area between your, your, your, your pointer finger and your thumb

Alisa St. Georges:
22:24

I'm still learning about the meridians and the acupressure points, but those are pretty powerful. And this is Eastern medicine meets Western, right? So I love it. There's tons of science to back up what's happening in the body. And at the same time, we're working with energy.

Jon A:
22:40

mm

Alisa St. Georges:
22:41

So it's a melding of worlds, and I think it's a little bit easier for the average person to accept when they see clinical study after clinical study done in, you know, universities around the world and in the, like the Institute in Ireland that does a lot of stem cell research.

Jon A:
22:58

And so you were talking about meridians. Do you recommend putting these patches on the meridians? Because it makes sense. I think those are major points of the body when it comes to the light flow or just flow of energy.

Alisa St. Georges:
23:12

Yeah, exactly. And different points may be more effective for different people. So what I'm learning is. Uh, not only physical scar tissue can block energy flow, but also emotional scar tissue, right? Can block energy flow. And so someone might put the patch in a location that they think is going to be helpful and they don't get the same result as someone else. And so it's a very individualized journey. The patch is not healing you. The patch is opening up the body's supportive mechanisms for healing itself. And so we have to trust the body. We have to listen. Um, we're not just following a script. Right. And saying, put it on here at this time and this is what's going to happen. So it's quantum. It's not linear.

Jon A:
24:04

Interesting.

Alisa St. Georges:
24:05

cool.

Jon A:
24:06

When, when someone has, are you saying that it's hard for the past to work if it's an emotional thing, or do you have to position it differently because of an emotional blockage?

Alisa St. Georges:
24:17

Yeah. I'm just saying that one location doesn't necessarily work for everybody. When they did the studies, they used two particular locations so that there was consistency and they could actually, you know, claim statistical significance. So, there's two spots, one here in the back of the neck and then one directly under the belly button. Both. Powerful locations

Jon A:
24:42

Hmm.

Alisa St. Georges:
24:43

the flow of energy. Um, typically I tell people if they have an upper body issue that they're trying to address, put it up. Behind the neck and lower body, put up a little belly button. But, um, like I said, they have to be open to listening and to adjusting, you know, as appropriate.

Jon A:
25:02

So this is a healing experience, a healing technology. what, what has been your personal experience with it? I'm sure you have like your personal experience or any story of someone else having like, uh, an unexpected, uh, experience from it. Mm

Alisa St. Georges:
25:18

Yeah. So I've been, uh, wearing it for seven months and honestly, there've been a lot of surprises, a lot of, um, pleasant surprises and. You know, many people will say, well, there's the placebo effect. And I always say, well, number one, placebo effect is affecting everything. I mean, you take an aspirin because you know, it works for you. There's definitely a mind body effect there. You're expecting it and have works every time. So it's going to work. Um, you know, so it's not placebo effect. Is it necessarily a bad thing? we put the patch on pets and see miraculous results with, you know, um, eyesight being restored. There's not a placebo effect there, right? So we can eliminate some of that concern while acknowledging that it exists as well. Right?

Jon A:
26:12

Well, so for that eyesight, uh, was that the pet or was that a person?

Alisa St. Georges:
26:16

that was a pet. That was, yeah, several dogs I've seen. Yeah,

Jon A:
26:19

Wow. Because yeah, your, your pet is like your best friend. So if you can stop your pet from walking into doors and stuff, you know, that would be awesome. But yeah, I'm, I'm joking around, but that's, that's pretty cool. But like they're, they're furry. Do you like shave an area and then put it on or you put it like,

Alisa St. Georges:
26:37

So all pets are different, right? Depends on your pet. Our pets are furry and our pets eat the patches, which did not pose a problem. Just came out, you know, when they did their business, but they're safe for ingestion. And so we just put, when we finish with our patch every evening. We take it off and rest our body. We put our used patch on our pet with a little masking tape on the back of their back where they can't get to it.

Jon A:
27:08

Okay, good. That's pretty cool. So what about, what do you, what do you use it for? Cause I know that you actively use the patches. Mm

Alisa St. Georges:
27:18

seven months ago when I started, I didn't know much about it at all. Many people who start are skeptical, something that's unfamiliar and never heard of it. So I started wearing the patch after I did a ton of research. So I'm a research nerd. Looked at all the science, tons of testimonies and determined that it, at least that it was safe. I didn't know if it was effective or what it was doing safe and effective, right? So I started wearing it and the first thing I noticed was improved energy during the day. So that boosted pretty quickly. Three or four days into it, I noticed I slept deeply and I was having dreams, which was really unusual. Haven't had dreams for many, many years. Those are the first two things. I was experiencing pain everywhere pretty much. Not all the time, not intense, but from, uh, intense chemo and radiation and tamoxifen for 15 years. My joints were old. I mean, I felt stiff and uncomfortable. I would get out of bed and it kind of had to tiptoe in the morning before things kind of lubricated. And I thought, Oh my gosh, like I'm in my fifties. I'm not allowing this to happen, you

Jon A:
28:35

Yeah. It's too soon.

Alisa St. Georges:
28:37

yeah. So I was having headaches. My, my skin was so thin from, Some of the medications I have been taking that if I scratched too strongly, sometimes it would tear.

Jon A:
28:49

That's weird.

Alisa St. Georges:
28:50

yeah, I had anxiety. Gosh, lack of stamina. I didn't really have a mood issue, but I noticed after several weeks, my mood was high. I felt unusually happy and excited and just Just so hopeful about things, you know, almost like when you come off of a high from some kind of event, that's fantastic. And I would turn around and just kind of look like it's Tuesday, you know, November, whatever, why do I feel so fantastic? Like I'm ready to crank up the music, roll down the windows and I'm just. Yeah. Just going to get groceries.

Jon A:
29:30

Yeah.

Alisa St. Georges:
29:32

So felt great. Some of the experiences my friends have had have been remarkable. So I have a girlfriend who actually stopped her, antidepressants after three days. And we say we do not diagnose, we do not cure, we do not heal anything, okay? So we're not making claims, we just share what other people's experiences have been. And although she cautions people against dropping medication like that, she's very intuitive, she knows her body. And that was three months ago, never went back, feels fantastic. And she's got a lot of physical pain that she's suffered through the years. Um, was a childhood asthmatic and has tons of lung damage. So, She's amazed. She's sharing it routinely with lots of people. I have a friend

Jon A:
30:28

I was going to say your, your, it helped with your joint health as well.

Alisa St. Georges:
30:32

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. So no more pain, no more pain. I mean, obviously if I stubbed my toe I'm in pain, but I don't have any chronic under the surface discomfort, you know, that was just always there flared at certain times. Yeah. So that's been amazing. Bye.

Jon A:
30:51

So how, how long did it take for, sorry to, to cut you off. How long did it take for you to notice the changes after wearing the patches that. Affected your joint health, because, uh, I mean, at the time of the recording in the U. S. it is winter, especially in the northeast. And I'm sure people are going to be like, uh, I got a question.

Alisa St. Georges:
31:15

Yeah, for sure. A lot of people move south because they can't handle that winter, right? It was gradual and that's the interesting thing about this. It creeps up on you. But I like to think of it as the way disease creeps up on you. We don't know that we're going to be diagnosed with some major illness. It slowly develops over time. And so I tell people the same thing with this. Your body's slowly healing over time. I would say before the third month, I got up one morning and realized it's just kind of like hits you. Oh my gosh, I haven't had this feeling in overall in a long time. I didn't record it. You know, we send people home with a health tracker, take pictures of all the ugly things because your collagen boosts like crazy. and you're going to notice a lot of really great skin changes. But some of the other things are difficult to document. Many people say, I just feel great. It's hard to pinpoint. I feel younger. I feel happier. I feel healthier. So, you know, it's subjective and Each person kind of gets their own miracles, which is the fun part. You just never know. We don't ever tell people to expect a certain thing. We kind of say, well, most people have had this experience. You know, I can say in general sleep. energy diminished pain, enhanced mood, strength. Like my muscles came back when I started patching, I've been working out for years and years, but all the damage that all those treatments did to my body and then removing all the estrogen for years and years just left me weak. I started patching and that muscular strength came back. So that's been like my favorite thing, even though. You know, it's nice to not be in pain. I kind of pushed through pain. Didn't bother me as much as losing the strength. I couldn't open jars. Couldn't do what I used to do at the gym. Yes. But it's the little functional things that really make the difference, you know?

Jon A:
33:23

So, uh, are there different patches for different aspects? Because you're talking about sleep. You're talking about muscle. You're talking about energy, uh, collagen, or is it the same patch or how does that

Alisa St. Georges:
33:40

bit about the company. It's a 20 year old company. It started, uh, in 2004 when the inventor was commissioned by the department of defense to help them to come up with a natural form of energy for the Navy SEALs. That's when the first patch was born. And very shortly after David Schmidt started the company. He said, wow, I'm onto something. This actually worked. He tested it on the swim team at Stanford university. And those women went up off to Olympic trials and most of them broke their records. So then a, a very beneficial thing happened. The Olympic committee wanted to look into that, right? They're wearing this patch and they're all doing fantastic. So it was really one of the best things that happened because they were able to show there's nothing. Going from the patch into the skin. There's nothing in the bloodstream. We can confirm that they didn't, you know, indicate that the patches were helping. They couldn't endorse the patches, but they could say with a, with certainty that there was nothing going into the bloodstream. So, David Schmidt thought, well, this is something I can really start to market. So between 2004 and 2020, he marketed many products. I don't think humanity was quite ready for those. Um, they did okay. They were passed along through some natural healthcare providers. Everyone was kind of, in my opinion, a little uncomfortable saying, I represent this company. I believe in this company. I endorse this. I want to many athletes. using the patches. You'll see them on their body. Plenty of photos out there that I could share. They weren't out there saying you got a patch because they knew it was giving them a little edge, right? And so for many years, this, yeah, it is the best kept secret that is no longer secret. So we're getting to the magic. He developed patches over those years for sleep, for, uh, anxiety, for increasing antioxidants. So many different purposes and the patches. Kind of went under the radar company was doing. Okay, he started he the inventor started turning his research to stem cells in 2008 and for 10 years Worked on developing the patch that is now the flagship product the x39 stem cell reactivation and regeneration patch 10 years 4. 5 million dollars gets a patent mind you all these products are patented You which requires some level of clinical documentation that what you're claiming in the patent is actually supported. You can't just make a claim. He, he said he stopped counting at 130 patents. So this guy's brilliant.

Jon A:
36:43

Just a couple.

Alisa St. Georges:
36:44

just a couple and he brought this to market. The company went from 30 million a year to 320 million. 20 million dollars a year

Jon A:
36:56

Nice.

Alisa St. Georges:
36:57

last year at 400 and looking to go to 600 million next year because this product does almost everything. So we're talking about the extensive benefits. It's crazy. So people will ask, well, will it help with this? We'll, You will only know if it helps with that if you put it on your body and wear it, right? You can look up testimonials, but who cares what it did for the person down the street. It doesn't help you You know, it's not that beneficial to you So are you willing to try it? What's your level of commitment? This is not a one month thing disease doesn't develop in a month and wellness doesn't return in a month You will start to see incremental benefits the longer you wear it the more benefits you're gonna see So this patch is patented to raise GHK, which is a peptide, not a medical person, but the patent says it raises GHK. The documented clinical studies show it raises GHK, that's measurable in blood, urine, all kinds of analysis. When you look at what GHK does, you can go on PubMed. That's where the real research is. You can look at books like this, which tells about copper, GHK, copper peptides.

Jon A:
38:16

Oh, that's literally the title of the book.

Alisa St. Georges:
38:17

yeah, this was written in the 70s, so we've known about GHK and it's been used in healthcare I shouldn't say healthcare, in skincare because, uh, one of the obvious benefits which are visible are the reduction of fine lines, wrinkles, and all kinds of stuff. So I've been wearing it seven months. You know, I'm going on 57 so I don't think I look too bad, but besides those visible superficial benefits this doctor says, you know, that the GHK fights pain and anxiety. It affects nervous system genes. It will upregulate genes that are falling asleep that we need to be active and it will downregulate genes that are harmful to us. Uh, it repairs damaged DNA. It will open up the pathways for the stem cells that are falling asleep as you age to wake up and actually regenerate. So when those stem cells start regenerating. They automatically know where your body needs healing. That's the part of the, the magic of our healing machine. I mean, we were designed to heal. We get a cut, everything goes right to that cut. It says up, close that cut up, protect it from infection. I mean, it's all in there. So once our stem cells start to wake up, that's exactly what they do. Oh, there's something happening in the liver that this person's not even aware of. Start going there. We need to kind of fill in here, repair. Oh, you know, I noticed there's some scar tissue from an injury that happened years ago. It's inside. Start to repair that. And so little by little by little, the body's regenerating itself. Regenerative medicine versus cancer. the medicine

Jon A:
40:06

Invasive.

Alisa St. Georges:
40:07

that we're, you know, that we're moving away from, we're moving away from those and everybody feels it. No one really wants to say it. That system is broken and it's going to be replaced with some of these new modalities. Yes.

Jon A:
40:21

I see a, uh, I see a familiarity with what you were saying. And, uh, I'm wondering if that, I think you said GHK is associated with copper. You know, how people wear Uh, copper bracelets and you drink out of a cop copper mug. It seems like the sim similar thing that's happening that's being activated. So it's very interesting. So if anybody is, you know, and yeah, yeah, that's right. Copper really, um, they, they embed that in socks and you have like the bracelets or you can just simply have a patch and just forget about it. Right.

Alisa St. Georges:
40:59

So what happens with these is that we all have metals, right, floating in our body and it's not necessarily a good thing. A lot of us are detoxing from those types of toxins. Copper can also become toxic if it's floating around and it's not being used the way the body can benefit from it. So if there's excess copper, it's causing oxidative stress and problems. But this patch, when it activates the GHK and increases the level, that's a naturally occurring peptide in our body. It just happens to be declining as we age. When this patch says, start producing that a little more, just like vitamin D, start producing it a little more, as that raises, it finds the copper that's free floating, that's not helping the body, and it binds to it, and then it pulls it into the cells and uses it for good. So it's pretty amazing. So it's It's taking the free radical. I don't, you know, again, I'm not a medical person, but those, the negative, the negative reactions that our body has to the excess metals and it takes it and says, I got a good use for this. Bring it over here.

Jon A:
42:08

That's pretty cool. Self regulating and, and it makes it, it takes the guesswork out because it, you know, we can't. There's so many systems going on in the body and to try to tally all the things that need work and it kind of reminds me of when they're trying to control nature and you introduce, I don't know, like a fox, because you have an overpopulation of snakes, but then that changes the whole ecosystem and you're, you're trying It's just hard. It's hard to compete with nature. And if you can empower nature to just do its thing, it makes complete sense. Just let it do its work. Just give it the energy, just empower it. So I like that,

Alisa St. Georges:
42:56

No, that's a great,

Jon A:
42:58

approach.

Alisa St. Georges:
42:59

great analogy. Do you, um, take supplements? Everybody does, right?

Jon A:
43:03

Yeah. Right. I actually, I haven't taken that many supplements as of late. I actually want to get, I'm trying to do more of like the raw mineral stuff. So my thing is. A lot of a lot of what I focus on is water and at the same time, keeping the supplements simple. But yeah, I definitely need to supplement more just just because you already know, you already know, um, whatever we eat doesn't have that much in it anyway. So you have to, like, supplement somehow. But I have a question for you. I, I usually try to ask a question that brings out. An interesting story. And you said to ask you about a 5, 000 trip visit to San Francisco Zoo for a day. What's going on with that?

Alisa St. Georges:
43:53

Okay. So this could be a heavy, heavy story or it could be a light story. So I'm going to tell it the lighthearted way because we can all benefit from a little humor and we can all benefit from different perspective on things, right? So we had a very important event to attend. In California during the pandemic, it was something that we couldn't miss. Okay. It was something that was so important that we were willing to compromise our convictions, wear the mask. And we were required to undergo some type of COVID test. Okay. Because we didn't have the vaccine. So we had to show that we were safe. not wanting to have the little thingy up the nose. We went to a very prestigious lab. In our state, as we know now, um, somehow connected to the political figures in the state and decided to have a saliva test. No one base, you know, it's not invasive. Yes, they have our, our DNA. Again, very few things on this earth would, uh, persuade us to go through this, to be in California. We also were bringing multiple family members. So you can imagine it was a family affair. And so we. Our children being grown, but not fully on their own and supporting themselves 100%. We were assisting others in flying and staying and attending this event. So we had the DNA spit test done and we promptly got on a plane because it had to be done within a certain amount of time. It was almost nearly impossible, as you know, for people who weren't following the narrative. And. Doing exactly as we were told, they made things very difficult. So because of the timing, we had to have that done prior to arriving. Cause I checked San Francisco. There was no way we're getting any kind of saliva test in San Francisco in immediately when we arrived. So we really had no choice. Arrived in San Francisco. Had some time to kill, enjoyed a full day at the San Francisco zoo. Had fantastic time. It was beautiful weather. We were really enjoying ourselves. I received two calls at the end of that day. Feeling pretty good, right? You know, we had to do what we had to do, but we're here for this once in a lifetime event, right? The first call I got was from my boss who indicated, I hate to tell you this, but please get on your email and check. I know you're in California for such and such event, but I couldn't, I couldn't, Not warn you, you know that you're getting an email regarding termination. Okay from your job So that put a little damper on okay. Well, all right again perspective I'm being put in this position for a reason and there are changes happening transition and I have to be okay with that because I'm not willing to Do what they're asking me to do. It's my choice. That's what I'm choosing. So we completed our day. We got in the car, driving back to the hotel, really excited about that evening. We passed the threshold and we were going to be meeting the family members that we hadn't seen yet. Pull into the parking lot at the hotel. Second phone call, state of Connecticut lab. You guys are all positive.

Jon A:
47:48

Hmm.

Alisa St. Georges:
47:49

Really? We feel fine. We look fine. We got our sense of smell and our taste. Interesting. This is interesting. So we had a decision to make in that moment. We could stay and be stuck or quarantined at the hotel based upon either them disseminating information, which we knew was happening. They could tell the airlines we wouldn't be able to get back on a plane for weeks. We could actually come down sick. We didn't know at that point, you know, we had no idea. And people had to be back at work. You know, it was a very limited timeframe. We were told we couldn't attend the event. And so we got everybody back on a plane 24 hours after arriving and flew home.

Jon A:
48:38

Oh my goodness.

Alisa St. Georges:
48:40

So that was our story about our very expensive trip to the San Francisco zoo.

Jon A:
48:47

So yeah, you went to the, the, the original plan was to go to an, an event that you're not going to describe, just, just to keep it lighthearted. And it was a family event, so you're going to see a lot of people. And, uh, you did, you did. It wasn't to go to the zoo, but you at least enjoyed yourself. But you had to make that quick decision. You're like, all right, we're getting out of here before like we get stuck.

Alisa St. Georges:
49:13

Yes,

Jon A:
49:14

And interesting enough, you guys weren't, you weren't feeling any symptoms.

Alisa St. Georges:
49:18

Come to find out the icing on the cake later that week. This was the lab where the state of Connecticut employees who were following specific directives to get tested were getting tested. They were testing there every week based upon their employer's requirement. I was saying not doing it, but it came through social media that all the tests that week were false positives.

Jon A:
49:47

you're, so you missed this important event because of these false positives. Uh, and that's

Alisa St. Georges:
49:53

epitome of explaining what that whole COVID crisis was.

Jon A:
49:58

right, right. Without, you know, without getting into it geez. And, and the termination. Had nothing to do with that. It was something else. It's just bad timing.

Alisa St. Georges:
50:08

Um, the termination had to do with the fact that I wouldn't,

Jon A:
50:11

Oh,

Alisa St. Georges:
50:12

I wouldn't do anything. I wouldn't comply. They said, all you have to do is just apply for this medical, uh, this, sorry, not medical, religious exemption.

Jon A:
50:20

Yeah.

Alisa St. Georges:
50:21

So it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. It's my bodily autonomy and I'm not going to sit in front of a group of 20 people and. explain and try to, you know, validate my authenticity and my, my sovereignty. It's not going to happen.

Jon A:
50:39

Right. You have to prove yourself. Yeah. That's, that's annoying. That's

Alisa St. Georges:
50:42

They said, it's so easy. Just do this. Just do this. And I, the, the conviction I felt was so strong that I knew that it was the right path for me because there was no question in my mind. So

Jon A:
50:54

Well, yeah, I applaud you for standing your ground on your bodily autonomy. And then at the same time, yeah, there's, there's challenges that we've overcome. Just standing your ground on your beliefs and going against the grain. And that's why it's so important to find your tribe. And at the same time, it also. I'm sure fueled you to find this technology that you're working with right now to help a lot of people, which is awesome. And there's, it's, I'm excited for the future of just health and wellness and the, the, just the new discoveries that we're making to find solutions. So that's pretty cool. Well, yeah, for sharing that story. That's very interesting. And that must've been a challenging time with that said Now that we, we know your story, we know about the technology that you're working with. How does, how do people get in touch with you? Is there like a, a main way to help people find you and connect with you?

Alisa St. Georges:
51:58

Yeah. So the technology is LifeWave X39 patch. Uh, tons of information can be found on YouTube. I know people like to do their own research to what other people's experiences have been. And we have, uh, a main web page that shows all of the information about the product. It's called this is it info. com. This is it info. com. And I can be reached out to Lisa St. George, my name, A L I S A S T G E O R G E S slash home and that will give you a way to contact me. It can be somewhat complicated and I really like to advise people so that they're getting the best price. And understand the product before they dive in. So I know what their goals and needs are.

Jon A:
52:48

Got it. And then for, I think you're being beamed up by an alien. Is that, is that what that is?

Alisa St. Georges:
52:54

It is

Jon A:
52:55

That was an interesting touch. Sound effects, natural sound effects. so it sounds like, it would be good to contact you to do a console. So you can really break it down versus like an Alec Hart thing. So, okay, cool. It's good to

Alisa St. Georges:
53:09

a person to person, a belly to belly. That's one of the things I love about it. I get to talk with people. I get to learn about them. My goal is to empower people, right? To make decisions that are best for them. And so it's not right for everybody, but for the people that is right for it can be miraculous. So.

Jon A:
53:27

Awesome. And then for anybody watching or listening, the links will be in the show notes. So you don't have to worry about the spelling and all that. Uh, we have a silent S um, but yeah, and I love your name. Beautiful name. I like names that have like a silent letter. It just makes things more interesting.

Alisa St. Georges:
53:52

Well, that's not the half of it. The period space, no space, uppercase, lowercase, is it S A I N T S T, oh, going on and on with that last name. Yeah.

Jon A:
54:04

thank you for coming on the show. I had a blast learning about you. More and your story, especially the zoo. Uh, that's a very expensive five thousand dollars for the zoo We know that it wasn't for the zoo, but you know, you can always pull that out If someone's like you have any crazy stories, yes, I do thanks for coming on and uh, we'll be continuing to talk i'm gonna look into the light wave a little bit more um It sounds interesting for I'm thinking about sleep and, uh, that's huge. And then also the anti aging stuff. So I'm pretty sure people would be interested in that

Alisa St. Georges:
54:40

Yeah. Well, thank you so much, John, for what you do because you're contributing like immense benefit and value to our community, sharing all this information and just kind of opening up the doors so people have a place to dialogue that's safe.